Three of a Perfect Pair Music Camp
with
Adrian Belew, Tony Levin, Pat Mastelotto
At the Three Of A Perfect Pair Music Camp, Adrian, Tony and Pat will share musical insight, meals, tales from the road, and even the stage during after-hours jam sessions with campers. Whether campers play guitar, drums, bass – or no instrument at all – Three Of A Perfect Pair offers a rare opportunity to learn, to play, to make new friends, and to get up close and personal with this trio of renowned musicians.
When: Monday, August 20- Friday, August 24 2012
Where: Full Moon Resort, Big Indian, NY (in the Catskill Mtns.)
Click here to watch the full video.
What: Three musicians. Adrian Belew, Tony Levin, and Pat Mastelotto. It’s fair to say that collectively among them they have helped create some of the history of modern rock music.
Imagine how many records they have collectively been a part of, the artists they have worked with, how much music they have created within King Crimson and apart from King Crimson.
Imagine how many places they have been, the concerts they have played, how many hours they’ve spent in studios around the world, the producers they have known, the bands they have been part of. imagine the depth and breadth of their knowledge and the amount of experiences these three have had.
Now imagine yourself interacting face to face, learning from the three of them personally, eating dinner and having drinks with them while hearing their amazing road tales, maybe even jamming with them after hours.
That is what this camp is all about.
Tony Levin elaborates: “At camp, Adrian, Pat and I will be giving classes. Also expected to be in attendance on certain days are Markus Reuter, Julie Slick and Tobias Ralph–the other members of Adrian Belew Power Trio and Stick Men–which all together add up to The Crimson ProjeKct, who will have just spent the summer touring with Dream Theater. Count on a lot of insight into Crimson music, both at open rehearsals and at the Bearsville Theater concert where all campers will be guests for the soundcheck and show.”
It’s a rare opportunity you should not miss. It doesn’t matter whether you play drums, guitar, or bass, in fact, you don’t have to play an instrument at all. Here’s your chance to get up close and personal with three musicians whose music has meant something to you.
When you register to join the camp you’ll be given a questionnaire. Your comments, thoughts, and hopes of what you will experience during the camp will help determine what happens. In other words, it’s an open curriculum designed to have something for everyone.
The fees are flexible as well. The camp provides several options depending primarily on the accommodations you choose. The food will be the same for everyone: excellent!
All of this in the gorgeous surroundings of Full Moon, a beautiful 70-acre resort tucked away in the Catskill mountains, in the summertime no less! What could be better?
Bring your axe, your sticks, or your spouse, but don’t miss out on this chance to hang out with Adrian, Tony and Pat. To learn from them, to play music, make new friends, and most of all to have fun doing it.
See the 2011 daily schedule to get a glimpse of what camp life is like.
contact music@fullmoonresort.com for more information on rates and registration.
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Hey guys, i just posted some camp pics on my website here: http://www.kevinbeale.com/News/Entries/2012/10/3_Camp_pics.html
I’m guessing there is quite a bit of this on Facebook, but for our non-FBers, enjoy!
Nice shots Kevin, thanks for sharing!
You have an artist’s eye, Kevin, very nice. Say, any thoughts about how I might belatedly get back stage at the October 13 show? I didn’t know I was going till after camp. can you guys plus one (or two, my wife is interested…)?
Peace,
Camper Tadd
Tadd – Buttering me up won’t get you my extra backstage pass! I’m actually taking my 9-year old daughter for her birthday. Otherwise I’d be happy to help. Shoot me an email through my website (www.kevinbeale.com) – I may be able to
help…
Hey Tadd,
I can try to help you out on this one. It would be you plus your wife?
Let me know.
Ciao,
Marco
Exactly so, Marco, but I was confused about dates in prior posts. To be clear, I am going on Saturday the 13th at Mohegan Sun. I appreciate whatever you can do,
Peace,
Tadd
We saw the Peter Gabriel So Back to Front show in Detroit last night.
CAMPERS – Attendance is NOT optional. This is a must-see show with jaw dripping moments. PG. T-Lev and company were in fine form.
Got my tickets for the tour closer on Oct 14. It’s a few days late, but will comprise my birthday celebration this year.
I will see you there (or likely not, given the size)…looking forward,
Peace,
Tadd
Perhaps at the pre-show “backstage” hangout? I’ll be there with my daughter for her 9th birthday. A bit younger than Greg, I believe…
I’ll be there too! Hopefully at the meet and greet!
sadly I didn’t know I would be going while we were at camp. I had to work it out later…any thoughts about how I might contact Tony? I could score some serious points with the Missus…
Peace,
Tadd
Tadd: I guess that if you post it in the Facebook event that Tony made for the PG 14th Oct concert he’ll get you. I’m going that day too and I’m happy to know that so many of you are coming.
Cheers !!!
Lautaro
I can’t find that on his site, Lautaro, can you send me a link?!
Hope to see you there,
Peace,
Tadd
Here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/437541546292518/?notif_t=plan_user_joined
or
go to Tony’s facebook, events (at the top of the page)
Being one of the last people on Earth not on Facebook, am I missing some info? I got Tony’s email and everything seems good to go. Just don’t want to miss something…
Ooops…I am going the night before the last one…but thanks for the assist Lautaro!
Peace,
Camper Tadd
Kevin, don’t worry if you’ve got Tony’s mail you’re cool with it. And I didn’t have facebook before either, but wanted to be in touch. See you in two weeks. BTW I liked your cd very much, thank you.
I agree…saw the show in Boston and it was great. There were a lot of highlights. It was so nice of Tony to get us backstage.
Is it possible for a 54 year old man to miss camp?
I think it is.
When’s lunch?
Naaa. I’m in the same boat. Really miss hanging with so many like-minded people. I’m still feeding of the energy from the camp.
HHHHaaaauuuuwwww
(spelled according to the Belew standard)…
Same here. When I need a quick pick me up, I’ll cue the Indiscipline drum battle in the barn or the camp jam videos my brother shot.
I wonder what’s for dinner tonight and if P@, Ade, or Tony will sit at our table?
Empanadas and Chorizos for starter, Asado with salads and Rosted Pepers and potatoes. Red wine, some fernet perharps?. What you guys like for desert?
You are always welcome.
Lautaro
Thanks Lautaro! I got on to get a little inspiration to make it through a long Monday, and now I’m hungry and over 5000 miles away from your dinner table. Fro dessert… a heaping helping of more music please. Have fun!
Yeah….know the feeling….Ever since we got back we keep finding ourselves humming Frame by Frame…etc…We got spoiled by the good food & great company of fellow campers…So no, this old gal agrees……most certainly a week of a lifetime……
Hi all. Like most, I’d like to thank Adrian, Tony and Pat as well as Markus, Tobias and Julie and the crew. More thanks to Full Moon (your staff is outstanding – not to mention the food). It was an unforgettable event. I met so many great people and the experience will live with me forever. If I’m really lucky, I will be able to re-live it all again next year.
HHHHaaaaaauuuuwwwwww
I AM HAPPY !!!
Thank you Tony, Pat, Adrian for your time, care and making this happen. It’s been a magnificent week.
I learned a lot, had loads of fun and
enjoyed sharing this experience with all the wonderful people I met.
And thanks to Amy and everyone at Full Moon too.
Cheers !
Greetings my friend, How was your return trip? Are all of your things OK? I am so glad we had a chance to meet each other and share stories. Please stay in touch. Jason
Hey Lautaro:
We really enjoyed your company
at camp… hope that you had a good trip home! Perhaps we will see you again next time!
Thanks everyone for a great time in the camp.Thanks Adrian,Tony and Pat.
Greetings LA,
How was New York? I really enjoyed hanging out with you. I have been listening to Birds Tribe; it’s really well done, very heart-felt. Thank you for sharing! Keep pushing your potential. Have fun! Jason
hey jason I sent a mail for you…did you see?And thanks for listen my work…I made with my heart opened…
So I didn´t receive the list of the campers e-mails.
You guys have facebook?
LA,
I haven’t received the e-mails so I’m assuming nobody has. But yes a lot of us are on facebook. Come and join us
Neither my brother nor I have received an e-mail list. I think Amy and crew are still pretty busy. FB works for now!
I put together a phpBB forum as a test – http://darwin.ediacara.org/phpBB3/
I’d like to ask Tony/Adrian/Pat if this sort of thing would be useful, I mentioned it at camp but that’s usually the wrong time to suggest new things…
The forum looks cool to me, but I’m no IT guy. I’m not on Facebook, so anything else is welcome.
That’s nice work Dave!
send me your facebook link…thanks..did you listen my work?
…and thanks to Tony for recommending Sleepytime Gorilla Museum–so weird and great! Thanks to Ade for his good humor, honesty and amazing company. Thanks to Pat for playing with me, Sam and Peter on Dog.
So, are we on for next year?
Peace,
Camper Tadd
Here is to hoping!
LA,
Enjoyed meeting and I am enjoying the CD, thanks! Hopefully next year will happen. It would be great to return for more 3OAPP fun. KA
Hi!
Thanks for your time and helping to inspire Gray! He is back in school and enjoying music theory class. He had to write notes to a song and discovered it will be performed on piano not guitar…hmmm…Van Halen leads, should be interesting….
All for you fellow campers, all were so kind and helpful to us! We really enjoyed meeting everyone! Hopefully we can partipate again next year…. can’t wait to sit down and enjoy the music you shared with us too! Thanks much!
For those at camp that grabbed the drumstick tipped Funk Fingers I have a thought or two. I dipped some of them in the rubber tool handle coating that regular FFs have on them to help them last longer. One red dot on them is 1 coat, two red dots is 2 coats, no dots = none. With the narrow tip and not being able to buy them anywhere I wanted them to last a while which is why I put it on there. However a rubber coating on a drumstick tip is not helpful for quick playing or sliding off of cymbals as you drummer well know, which is why I did not coat all of them. The coating will get a little slicker and harder with use and age. If any of you are using them or are planning to you may just want to get a sharp knife and cut and peel off the rubber from the bottom toward the tip so you can get the proper ping and whap. I will post this on the FB page too. KA
I am on my lunch break and wanted to thank one and all. Thanks Tony, Adrian, Pat and Markus for all the great workshops and One-on-Ones. Julie and Tobias for the added playing. To all my fellow campers what a gas we had! Also Kevin thanks for the funky fingers. Looking forward to any pics, video and audio any of you have to share. Now it’s time to apply all that I learned… Ciao for now – Bernie
Like many others, I’ve been going through Camp withdrawal. It was such a great experience to be able to learn from Tony, Pat, and Adrian. I can’t thank those guys enough for all they did.
Wait, perhaps I can… How about I remember (and put to good use) all the great things they taught us and start making more music!
See ya for now.
Kevin (the balding drummer/lefty bassist/Stick mangler)
Kevin–you’re album is just wonderful, thanks so much for it!
Thanks Tadd!
Kevin,
I am enjoying your disc, nice stuff!
Thanks
Kevin A
Thanks Kevin. I’ll tell you guys what I tell everyone else:
“If you like my music, tell your friends they can buy it on iTunes. If you don’t like my music, don’t tell anyone!”
Hi Everyone,
I am trying to reach the fellow camper that was doing the recording with the Zoom digital recorder. I recall seeing him record practice sessions. Any clues would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Kurt
Hmm… hi Kurt! I seem to fit the description… I have some editing to do but want to make the recordings available to fellow campers, somehow. Ping me if you’re on facebook.
I’ve got a bunch of stuff too like a lot of the jams and some good concert stuff too.
RB
Hey Robert… Are you going to upload any of those videos to your vimeo page? Would love to see some of the jams!
Yeah I’d like to if I could find a way to make a separate area away from my work stuff. Has anybody heard from Henry? I’ve got him playing Balalaika with Tony Levin. Probably doesn’t happen everyday. Hopefully they send out that email list soon.
Rob–yeah, Henry is on Facebook, so a bunch of us can get a hold of him. If you got a place where folks could download video footage, the people would show up
Unfortunately, there was not a group of musicians huddled around my crappy coffee maker, so I spent the morning listening to the CDs graciously shared by Kevin Beale and Arthur Lindemanis; a very nice way to wake up, thanks gents. I also made my first Facebook page (Soft Geese) in order to share my photos, and made my wife “like” it.
After a two and a half day babbling download of our adventures, I think she is done with me for awhile. Now I will spend the day trying to find someone to play music with me. Haunk???
Yo Campers, . . . . i’m downstairs at Bearsville in my sweaty shirt thinking of how much fun it was to play for you (Crimson) Honkers . . seems like family. – only 9:30 on thursday and i already am feeling the ‘post project depression’ coming on . . .
What a great show and way to put a ribbon on a fantastic week! Thanks for your patience and energy this week. You and all in the band have been remarkable!
We are already missing the musical inspiration we have had all week….It is quiet here at home and we find ourselves makin funny animal sounds every once in a while! The concert was AMAZING!
Thanks so much for the fun!
What a bittersweet post to find after the ride home…hope all is well with everyone…what a blast!
Yeah, thanks to everyone for such an amazing week; meeting everyone was fantastic, everyone there was super cool. This was an unbelievably fun experience.
It was an amazing week… so much more so that I ever would have expected. Thanks Tony, Pat, and Adrian for putting so much of your time and energy into making it a memorable experience!
What an amazing week it was! It was great meeting everyone. Thanks to Adrian, Tony and Pat (and Markus) for incredible week of music and fun.
The post projeckt depression was in full swing on my long drive back, but found myself analysing each guitar on the radio for which sound box they were using ! An incredible week and I cannot thank you three enough for it (plus the remainder of the double trios). Have started composing already and am looking forward to next year (please, put this on again). Hi to the rest of you campers, Y’sir.
Haunk…
I woke this morning from a strange dream. It’s mostly a blur that I’m still trying to piece together. All I know is I have been plugged back into the correct “channel” and things are right again.
I thank you all for renewing my spirit and focus.
Have Fun!
What a fun experience with so many nice people! Thank you Adrian, Tony, Pat, Markus, Julie, Tobias & friends!
Also, special thanks to Amy, and the Full Moon group for their careful attention to us campers!
It was a pleasure to meet everyone and hope to see you all again!
My son Mike is at the camp this year, and that’s a long way to come from Christchurch, New Zealand. Like many of you there, he knows his way around a bass guitar pretty well, and the new 10-string ‘thing’ called Namazu is pretty cool. Have a ball, y’all!
Hello Mike!
We all had a wonderful time with your son, Mike. He is very talented and we hope he has a safe trip back home after N.Y. We enjoyed his company and he was helpful to the youngest camper there!
Cliff & co.
Thanks for the gracious response. I’m sure you all had a great time at the camp. I just checked the date to see if Mike (jr) was likely to be home yet and have decided to call him at lunchtime to get his perspective on how it all went. All the best from a supportive music fan and dad,
cheers,
Mike Fudakowski
Hello again!
It is already September so we are hoping Mike is home safely by now! Maybe next time he can bring Dad along! It was such a great family experience for us!
Everyone there was great! Best regards to Mike…Hope he had a good time in N.Y.city!
I had the opportunity to jam with your son the first night at camp and watch him play several other times. He is an amazing musician! Hope that he made it home without any hassle.
3PP Campers- Have a great time! Last years camp was fantastic. Tony, Adrian, and Pat did an absolutely great job. It was so much fun hanging out with these guys, learning from them, and listening to their stories and music. I am really going to miss being there this year.
Cheers from Austin,
doug
THRAAK ALERT!
Hi everyone. I’m greatly looking forward to the camp. We’re going to do some focus on Crimson’s “Thraak” and this is a heads up for those who want to look it over beforehand. I’m going to devote two of my classes to showing any of you (who want to play it) the melody and two thraaking parts. Pat will do the same with drummers.
Then, on Wednesday night we’ll do a full 60 piece version (with greatly expanded middle improv section) that’ll be… something to remember! See you soon, t.l.
Do you think this is wise? I remember earthquakes and hurricanes following last years jam and that was pretty tame compared to this idea, it should be interesting….
Thraaking brilliant!
Any idea where I can get bass or Stick tab for this? Web searches haven’t been too helpful?
Thanks and I’m looking forward to camp!
Until you can find some tab for it, brush up on your half/whole diminished scales – as near as I can tell, the entire intro melody is based off a C half/whole diminished scale (C, Db, Eb, E, F#, G, A, Bb) which then shifts up a Major 3rd to E.
[yeah? Do please correct me if I'm wrong]
I transcribed it last night into standard notation. Sorry I don’t have access to it at the moment, left it on my home computer and I’m at work. It looks to be in C-Locrian. ( … I think … ). I’ll stick the notes up here tonight.
Any sort of notation would be super awesome–I’ve been hunting for Thrak in bass tab for weeks, and the internet has nothing to speak of. If anyone does have access to Thrak in bass tab, and could post a link right soon, that would be fantastic. Otherwise, a link to any sort of notation would be good too.
Hi Peter (and whoever else) — shoot me an email — ain’t got no website unfortunately. I’ll take a stab at bass tab also but will send you what I have this evening. My address is my first initial then my last name, at google’s email service…
C-Locrian sounds like an an allergy drug! Man, I sure am glad I’m just a drummer so I don’t need to keep all those esoteric scales straight…
Pity the poor trumpet player who is dragging his instrument to camp this year. Maybe I’ll bring a ukulele as well just in case. Though for THRAK maybe I’ll just play random glisses at various moments.
–D.
@Steve LOL! (And I think the bass players have it pretty easy in this one compared to the drummers…) Here’s what I have: http://bit.ly/N4gVyl
I think it would be cool to do an acapella choral version where everyone sings their parts, kind of like the Ketjak.
John,
e-mail sent. Keep an eye out for it. Thanks!
New version with credits
http://bit.ly/PqUJgB
Hello:
Just a quick “shout out” to see if you have a printed schedule of events yet (provided you guys aren’t too busy). We look forward to spending time with you and all of our fellow guests very soon!
@Steve LOL! (And I think the bass players have it pretty easy in this one compared to the drummers…) Here’s what I have: http://bit.ly/N4gVyl
I think it would be cool to do an acapella choral version where everyone sings their parts, kind of like the Ketjak.
sorry, wrong thread, how embarassing…
Actually, I think that the idea of an a capella section in Thrak is deserving of being mentioned twice!
I’ll do my best to keep up, but if nothing else, will commit right now to holding the candle steady while you shave the chicken’s lip.
Hi! Anyone out there Newyorkers that is planning on taking their car?
We’re 2 people with one electric bass looking for a ride to the Full Moon that could be cheaper for all in the car than taking the bus? Anyone?
I´ll be in NYC too and till now I will go by bus….but a ride is very welcome.
Hello Campers,
I’m just getting home from The Crimson ProjeKct tour opening for Dream Theater — needless to say we had a great time!
And getting my head, and emails, back into camp mode and wanted to let you know: DW is donating a snare drum (PDP prototype bubinga snare with tube lugs), Paiste is donating an Alpha Swiss cymbal (thats the cymbal with holes you may have seen me using), and L.P. is sending us a set of LP super timbales. . The big ones. They’re great!! These items will be there for all of us to use at the camp and then raffled off after the Bearsville Theater show on the last night.
Speaking of shows : August 17th, just a few days before the camp, Stick Men will do a special show at Alex Grey’s ‘Chapel of Sacred Mirrors’ in nearby Wappingers Falls, NY. This show will be semi-improvised, lower volume, ambient’ish laptop’ish event . . much like the OPEN CD Stick Men released a few months ago .
We have arranged for 10 comp tickets to be given to our campers – - by now Amy may have contacted those camper that have already signed up to explain the tickets will go to the campers that signed up earliest. , but depending on their travel plans some of those campers might not be able to attend . . so Amy will be going down the list untill she gives away all 10 comps. . you might want to check with Amy for your status in the give away. . and if you dont make the cut but want to catch a very special show please come on down!
More info about CoSm and our show here:
https://secure.cosm.org/np/clients/cosm/event.jsp?event=984
P@:
Wow sounds like a great show! I received the e-mail yesterday from Amy and I sent her my regrets today. We won’t be arriving in the area until Sunday 8/19. Whoever benefits will certainly have a good time. Love the concept!
Steve
Sounds like the sponsors are really coming to bat for the camp. That is awesome! Now, we just need Roland to donate a few cube amps or something.
Hi all. Some good news for bass players at the camp; Ampeg is contributing about 8 small bass amps for us to use, in addition to the ones I bring. Best part: they’re a gift to the campers from Ampeg, so we’ll raffle them off on the last nite. Yay! t.l.
Excellent work Tony! Ampeg is a class company and this is a very welcome and generous gesture.
I was considering bringing my Simmons DA-200S for my e-drums and for any other camper who may need to plug-in. With these 8 amps do you think this is still required?
Steve
ohhh I want to be bass player….great…I´m a guitar player and I will not have an amp.Just headphone.Will have guitar amps?I come out from Brazil… isn´t easy to carry an amp.thanks.
There are lots of small guitar amps at the camp. t.l.
Greetings,
I was planning to bring my Roland JC-77, a practice Line 6 guitar amp, and an old Hartke 1450 bass combo, mostly to make certain there was enough stuff for any “travelers”.
After reading a few posts, I’m wondering if that is needed. It’s no problem and I’d certainly “sponsor” our Brazilian friend. Also, I can bring a small (stereo 8″, over 12″) powered PA if you think that could serve a purpose. I also have drum mics and access to a small porta-studio (8-tracks in real time). I can fill the car if everyone thinks it a good idea. Let me know. Jason
Hi Jason:
I don’t think anyone will complain about you bringing this equipment. I’m certain it will all be put to good use! If I were driving I’d do the same but flying has made me reevaluate what I’m bringing.
Steve
Would be great.I´ll carry with me a Boss BR80 so I can use an amp or send to a p.a and emulate some preamp.Thanks for your help Jason.
I will also bring my Create KB amp. If I’m not using it, I have no problem lending it out. Also, for evening play, I have a Mackie 1202 and a 6 ch headphone amp that I could throw in the van. Would this be useful or is gear like this available at the camp?
This will be my first trip to camp as I couldn’t fund the journey last year.
I’ll be carpooling it up there from VA/NC, and probably just bringing a guitar & processor since both of my amps are half stacks. I will definitely help make use of any guitar amps or pa ins that are available.
Greetings all,
I just signed up for the tent camping option and welcome comments from anyone that chose this option last year please. How “primitive” is it? Do I need to plan to get in early to dig a latrine? Am I bathing in a lake or stream? Puma repellent? No problem; I just need to know.
I am also driving in from Cleveland and am planning to bring several instruments, amps and such. Any thoughts on needed extras? A small P.A? Keyboard? Etc? I notice there are several folks limited by flying in, so if I can help…
Thanks for any help!
Hey Jason:
I camped last year and it was not too rustic. The sites are a short walk from a public restroom with running water and a shower, even. It is, however, rural enough to include deer who walk about now and then. So, best of both worlds IMO. I hope that helps.
Peace,
Tadd
Greetings Tadd,
That sounds perfect.
Thanks for your post.
Jason
Greetings, Anyone needing a ride to/from Newark Airport (EWR)? I have rented an SUV and have room for three more passengers. Depart EWR at noon on Monday (Aug 20) for camp and return to EWR on Friday (Aug 24) around 2 pm. Cost share will depend on the number of people that ride with us.
Thanks Kurt for posting this faster than me!
I’ll be of the party as you know
Hey Kurt – I’d be keen to catch a ride back to Newark with you from the camp if there’s room (I’m heading into the mountains on the Sunday though).
Great. You have a ride to the camp. Room for two others remain…
Sorry Kurt, I mean I’m staying at the inn near the camp on the Sunday night before (to recover from jetlag) so I’m only after a ride on the return trip. If you still have room for me that’d be great, but don’t keep a space for me on the way to the camp from the airport because I’ll already be there!
Sorry. Yes you have a ride to the airport.
Hi Mike,
Your cost for the ride to airport will be $72.50
Correction: The cost for a ride to airport would be $58 provided the riders do not change.
Whoa, that’s almost double the cost of the bus! Unless you can drop me off in midtown Manhattan I might have to rethink that too, sorry
Hey Kurt, so maybe me and my brother could fit? He’s bringing a bass, I’m not. Do you know how much it’ll be the cost already?
Thanks a lot man!
Hi Arcadio,
Yes we have plenty room for the two of you plus equipment. The cost per person is $170 for the round trip.
Correction: The round trip cost would be $130.50 per person provided the riders do not change.
Oh well, Gee that’s quite far beyond my budget man, I’m sorry. I guess we’ll just take the bus then. Thanks anyway, I’ll see you there!
Hi all – Tony here. Adrian, Pat and I are out on the road, having a ball playing, and discussing camp ideas. You might want a heads up, we’re going to focus on the pieces Frame by Frame, and Thraak, both in small groups, and then as a big group (for those who want.) So you might want to practice those a bit, or at least give a listen. Also going to do Circulations, in our classes and as a full group. (and Markus Reuter, who’ll be guest instructor all week, is an expert at leading circulation.) t.l.
Does anyone have a link to a non-stick, 4 string bass version of Frame by Frame tab (or Thrakk, as the case may be) available anywhere? I can only find tab in 5 string stick…
I´d like to know if the three guys will have cds and other stuff to sell in the camp.
Hi everybody I will comming from brazil and I can get Airplane to Newburgh, Albany or NYC and than take a bus.Someone will come out of this cities by car?thanks and let´s rock.
Hi All:
Camp is just around the corner and I’m starting to plan what I need to bring. Certainly if I was packing up a car and heading in I wouldn’t be so discriminant. But, we will be flying and I plan to bring my Roland V-Drums so that’s a good load to start. We will not be camping so that reduces the load quite a bit. I’d like to limit myself to one bag in addition to the two Roland cases.
Does anyone who attended last year’s camp have any good advice concerning items they brought last year that were unnecessary and items they wish they had brought along but didn’t? The weather looks to be moderate so I guess long sleeve / short sleeve and jeans / shorts doesn’t make too much difference. A jacket? Swim gear? Snacks? Hiking boots and a day pack?
Any and all advice appreciated!
Steve
Steve,
Who knows what the weather will be at camp this year. Last year is was amazing to me with highs around 70 and lows around 50 most nights with the first night being the coldest maybe upper 30s. A jacket certainly came in handy at night and inthe morning. It rained a little only 1 day. I guess what you bring certainly depends on what you want to do at camp. Myself I went to clinics/sessions or whatever you would like to call them and rehearsals almost all day every day. I wished that there were 3 of me so that I could attend all of Tony’s, all of Pat’s and all of Adrian’s, because many overlap times. Being a drummer you may choose to focus mainly on Pat and Tobias’ clinics and have other time to hike or work with other campers, or attend as much as possible. Ade,Pat & Tony did all 3 of them as a group in sessions and talks as well last year too. It will be cool to see how things are different this year. I love hiking in the mountains and it is a very inviting area but the idea of leaving the activities really didn’t cross my mind. I only know of 1 camper that swam last year and he got out quickly because he said it was too cold, who knows you may find it warm. I believe that I took some granola bars in case I needed a snack. Full moon feeds us very well with great food and plenty of it but I don’t remember if there were between meal snacks around. Coffee is available all day, as well Tony said he will bring his espresso machine again for us to enjoy. Bring a camera! It can get loud so earplugs are a good idea too.
See you in a month!
KA
Hi Kevin!
Thanks for the VERY helpful information.
I’ll plan to bring more long sleeve tees plus a jacket to deal with the cooler temperatures. And maybe a few granola bars and some Goldfish just in case the hungries hit. A camera is a must!
I agree; I too plan to attend as many sessions as possible and maximize the experience.
I’ve reconsidered bringing my full V-drum set after calculating Delta would charge me almost a grand in excess baggage fees to do so. I’ll bring an Octapad instead.
Won’t be long now: see everyone in a few weeks!
Steve
Hopefully it won’t be 95 degrees from some freak heat wave. It should be great fun no matter what the weather.
Hi Guys!
We are late getting in but looking forward to shared time & talent!
I may have offended my husband by registering him as beginner (but modesty is a good thing some times). Do you expect to have many young teens participating?
My 18 y.o. metal head son is coming along….how old is your kid?
Peace,
Tadd
Is anybody flying into Albany the morning of August 20th by noon that might want to share a rental car? My flight is supposed to arrive from Atlanta at 11:30 am.
I forgot to also mention my departure from Albany on Friday the 24th at 5:30ish. I guess departure would also need to match some what.
Sounds perfect, if you’re driving!
Good for me.I will get a flight from NYC 6 am and arrive in albany 11:20am.
Ok, so a question for each of you. How much luggage and gear will you have with you? My bass flight case is pretty long and I imagine your’s is too Dave. I will also have a day pack and another carry on bag. LA, what about you? I’m just wondering what size car we will need if it works out. The cars get pretty expensive the bigger they get.
I changed my intinerary…I will get a Bus in NYC.´Couse the price of flight ticket will be better(much better).I will go with my guitar an Boss micro BR-80.Simple set up.I´ll get a bus to big indian.Thanks for attention I will see you there.If I can help you with something maybe I can help you.bye
We shrank! I can fit my rig! Click for pic.
Hi….are there still openings for this camp? It sounds amazing…just learned of it today.
Hi Tim:
As far as I know, there are still places available. Fletcher at Full Moon is a good resource. The link is up by the video on this page.
Join the fun!
Steve
Thanks. I think I am definitely going to join the fun if there are spots left.
Hey there everyone, I’m a first timer for this year and have a few questions. How many of you are guitarists, and as a guitarist should I bring an amp and or pedals along with my guitar ?
Thanks.
Welcome aboard! They do provide many amps, but they are all in the rehearsal/ barn space. Guitarists tended to bring effects for sure, and I saw a lot of personal amps, too. i am not sure if there is an official policy. If you are coming by plane, it might make sense to use the amps provided. See you in August!
Peace,
Tadd
Anybody driving from out West?
I wonder how many folks have registered? It’s getting down to hard commitment time. Should we be out beating the bushes to help with enrollment if there are fewer signed-up than planned?
Steve
I’ll be there! Work leave is confirmed, tickets from New Zealand have been bought. Just have to find a flightcase for the bass and a way of getting to Big Indian from NYC.
I’ve been reading up on the Railboard™ – any chance Tony will be getting one of the prototypes along for us to have a sneak peek at?
Hi Mike:
Wow! If they hand out awards for camper traveling the longest distance, you should be a shoo-in.
Best regards,
Steve
My flights have to go via Australia, so yeah it is a bit of a hike! And lugging a bass and a tent, and maybe a small practice amp as well. I should make it to the Slide Mountain House on the Sunday to recover from jetlag, if anyone else is doing anything similar we should meet and jam
Mike,
There are several bass amps and a number of guitar amps for us to use while we are there in the areas. I myself would not bring an amp (I do have an headphone amp app on my phone) as there was almost always one available somewhere when I wanted to use one last year.
I will see you in August!
Kevin
Hi. Was wondering the same thing. I’m bringing a small Roland V-drum kit and was wondering if I should be bringing my Crate amp. Are the ‘on-site’ amps be suitable for drums? Cheers…
I understand T-Lev brought a bunch of his old bass amps last year. If he does this again, we’ll be OK. I’m bringing my Rolands too!
As I recall last year T-Lev did not bring any personal amps. He had mentioned that he might then Ampeg became a sponsor and provided a few. I believe that there were a total of 5 or 6 bass amps at camp last year and in some clinics as many as 3 were being used at once. Generally during late night jams a couple of those amps were being used at each of 2 locations. The only time that is was a bit weird was during the whole camp jam when 2 bassists and maybe some stick players had to share amps, twice as many would have been great for that one event. Bass signals fight each other for input and neither on would get a great sound. It was great fun though. All of my excessive explanation comes down to ,don’t count on a bass amp being available for drums.
I should defer to Pat and Tony about that as details may well be different this year.
We will see in a quick 3 months.
Kevin – Thanks for the correction!
Rick – If you are driving you might want to being your amp.
Steve
Thanks guys. The Crate it is… What’s another 70 lbs of gear? This is going to be great! Cheers.
There is still some time before camp. I bet that Pat or Tony will reply to this if they do have any new details when they have their break in touring and can think on it a bit.
Well, Mike, that’s quite a trip. I can relate, cause I travel a lot myself.
I did bring all my bass amps last year, and will bring them this year, but as mentioned, that’s pretty slim for covering the full camp jam… I’ll see what I can get in other ways (Ampeg donated some last year, which we gave to campers.) t.l.
Dooh…..
I recalled wrong about Tony’s amps.Sorry.
Kevin
Re amps, there are quite a few small guitar amps at the camp. Everything else has to be brought in, and since I’m the only local guy, I’ll bring what I have. Last year Ampeg contributed some practice bass amps, which were given to campers – so I’m casting about for more, and will bring what I can. I know it’s murder for two basses to share an amp! I have some huge ones, but … gee, rent a truck for a thousand watt Trace, and whoever plays that in the jam will be the only one anybody hears… not a great plan! t.l.
This seems like a good time to mention that I got everything I came for last summer.
Two campers have come to visit me, write songs, and feed me heirloom vegetables in the time since then.
Neither plans to return to camp.
I do.
Sweet! I’ll be there too! We need to jam this time!
SirDave, Three campers visited… Willie! nn
Stan, What up! nn
All, I don’t plan to camp this year, but I’ll try to share a short song. See Ya! nn
Steve, I don’t have the latest numbers – roughly it was about 35 last time I heard. That’s a nice number to have, but there will be more than that, maybe more by now. t.l.
Hi tony, I will see you sunday in grand rapids mich. camp sounds like A riot. I wish I could make it…3 kids though… Other than sticks & axes, does anyone bring fishing gear for a different type of battle?
Does the camp have a need for vocalists? Please advise. I don’t want to buy in and end up out of the action. I can cover a lot of the Crimso catalogue from all eras (I am 51) and love to improvise as well. My range is E2 to F4, plus falsetto. If people think it is worth the effort I would love to jump in.
Hey John:
The possibility of some sort of barbershop group has been kicked around some. We had some vocals in the all camp jam. I for one would love to work on some songs with folk. Over all, the point is to come and have fun…why not come for great food, wonderful stories, GREAT music and a concert along the way? It is well worth it in my experience…hope to see you in the summer,
Peace,
T
Due to the change in dates, I may no longer be able to attend. Should know in a week. What a colossal disappointment.
Hi Rick:
I hope you can get this worked out and we see you in August. We’re scrambling too. It figures I just made flight arrangements last week.
Steve
Are these for sure the final dates!? This is a total surprise and I need to firm up time off soon (like everyone else, I imagine…) Amy? P@t? Tony? Ade? Help?
Hi Tadd:
I have been corresponding with Fletcher at Full Moon who has been very prompt in responding and helpful. He said to rest assured the dates will not change again. I too will need to change some flights and I’d like to do it once!
Best regards,
Steve
Thanks, Steve!
Yaaa. After much schedule juggling, I should be able to make it. I hope everyone else was able to rejig. See you there. Cheers…
That is good news Rick! See you there.
Well, one step closer. I bagged the air tickets for my brother and me. Those frequent flyer miles can be handy! Almost April; August isn’t too far away.
Hi guys, just stopping in to say hi.
I’m returning for my Sophomore camp, and can’t wait to see some of you all again.
I just saw P@t last Saturday behind Chrysta Bell. (Great show). And CGT, the week before. So, there’s a Crimson aura still floating over Austin.
hey everyone
wanted to let you all know me and friend will be attending the camp this year!!!!!!! that being said we are flying into albany and are happy to fill 2 seats in our rental car.. feel free to email me to set up times to meet up. markusmessina@gmail.com
cheers
markus
Hi Tony – I’m a 16 year old musician from Sarasota, Florida. I currently have my own band, The Garbage-Men, and am a Jazz Band bass player. Do you allow for people my age at the camp?
Hi Jack!
I was there last year. I think the youngest person there was 15!! So yeah you’re good! If your parents are cool with it of course
Love what you’re doing with those scrap made instruments!!
There were a few teenagers around, certainly Keegan was everywhere.
wow thought i was dreaming when i stumbled upon this.
what a treat to be in such an area with so many great musicians. i will not miss this event under any circumstance, but a quick question can an alumni please tell me how the tent camping is, if its to far removed id rather be in the mix thanks
Markus,
I attended last year but did not camp. I do know that the campsites are right behind the main lodge. Also generally nobody hung out in their rooms or tents except to sleep because we were all having a great time with lots to do. I posted a photo of an overhead view of Full Moon Resort with camping, music, and eating areas indicated on the 3OAPP Facebook page the link is below, hope it helps.
KA
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=753079193&ref=tn_tnmn#!/threeofaperfectpaircamp
Thanks for the info Kevin
It’s much appreciated and hopefully ill see you there
Cheers
Hi Markus. I didnt tent myself, but i could see where they were – by the stream, quite close to the action. Maybe 100 to 200 yards (meters) away, thats all. Hope to see you there, tony
Hi All.
I’m hoping to attend, but all my buddies with an interest are unable to attend. I’d need a ‘roomy’ in order for me to share the cost. Anyone need a room-mate for the 4 nights? I’m driving down from the Toronto area. Just for interest; I’m 47 and play (in order of competence) keys, drums/percussion, bass and run a small proj studio. Cheers…
All right – All booked and going solo. Really looking forward to this on every level. It will be fun bringing all my gear across the boarder. See you all there. Cheers.
I am considering this, any comments on the non-air conditioned rooms in August? How hot and muggy did things get? Mosquitoes?
Speaking for myself the weather at last year’s camp was great. Highs in the low 70′s but it did get quite cool a couple of nights. I did not feel the slightest need for AC. Who knows what this year has in store?
Also last year I did not even see a mosquito. I hope for a repeat this year.
Maybe it was just luck, but last August we had no bug problems, and it wasn’t muggy – just really nice. t.l.
Thanks Tony. If I can get an ok from the missus, I will need to dust off the old Fender P and try to remember the fretboard! Its been eons but would love to attend even if just to watch other real musicians (and keep my volume control really low).
I was thinking about the everyone jam at this year’s camp. I’m wondering if there is any seating configuration that might help in sonic organization. Last year it seems like we were all scattered all about mixing all instruments. I don’t think that with the somewhat loose quality of the music that clustering all of each instrument together would be a good. All of the basses together might be a bit much for example. What about 5 or 6 of each instrument group together maybe with the exception of percussion. Just thinking about what might sound better and be easier for Tony to conduct.
Any thoughts?
Good point, Kevin. We’ll mull it over, and get some sensible seating plan (if there is such a thing for conducted chaos!) Thanks, t.
It might make sense to support breaking into various configurations among instruments to work out (possibly conflicting/ possibly harmonic parts) which could pass off, and/ or overlap throughout the big group jam. Also, let’s solicit emotions, colors and moods to lead the changes, as well as keys–it could add some lovely texture (I know you did so some, TL…). As far as vocals–what about a lyrics workshop to contribute to the all-camp jam? And Tony, you did BEAUTIFULLY with the campers given that it was a first go!
I meant before the jam with the configurations bit….projekcts if you will…to work out some ideas before we all get together…and, just to emphasize…you were brilliant, fabulous, unbelievably good at conducting the chaos, Tony. Sorry if I under-represented above…
I’m hoping we could try a circulation experiment or two during the Jam.
I realize in thinking back to last year’s camp that I never visited the campground campfire at night. I went up on the hill where the electric jams were happening and a fire outside there. Did I miss anything at the campground campfire?
I thought that WAS the campfire. It was a fire, had campers around it… maybe there was another one too.
I never saw another fire myself, but I tried to get some jam time in, so I was up that way! haha, either way it was fun! I’m looking forward to it this year too!
A rare opportunity.
Maybe you could take advantage of this rare opportunity and make ever more rare?
Now that would be rather noteworthy.
I second that.
At least if Robert showed up people would stop calling me ‘Robert’ this year!
My cymbal twin–I look forward to seeing you again!,
Peace,
T
A rare opportunity? IN DEED! The show in G.R. MI, USA on Sunday, June 24 was completely amazing! Thank You ALL! …The last time was @ K-Zoo State Theatre…THRAK!!!…June 12, 1995…that’s 17 years & 2 weeks!!!…a rare opportunity!!!…I’m happy to be happy with what I have to be happy with! Thank you again Stick Men & AB3! And Thank You Mr. Fripp!!!
Suggestions for subjects of lectures & exercises:
1. “Being Progressive in the year 2012″
At last year’s camp, in speaking about King Crimson, Tony said, “We didn’t just try to be a prog band, but to be progressive”
Many of us certainly remember the release of “Discipline” in 1981. This album, in the opinion of many, was the epitome of a “progressive” album. It was fresh, up-to-date, and no album before had sounded quite like it. There was absolutely nothing 70′s prog about it.
What would be the best formula for creating “the” ground breaking, truly “progressive” prog album of 2012?
2. “Navigating your music career – how the pro’s do it”
Why do we know who these three men are? What choices did they make throughout their lives that got them where they are today? What do they do on a daily basis to continue their success?
An in-depth discussion with Tony, Pat, and Ade on inspiration, discipline, choices, and lifestyle, and how they have navigated their careers.
I’m going to try my best to attend this year. I should know by next week. If the spouse and kidletts made the trip, are the rates the same per person?
Thanks. I -really- hope to see you all there….
Cheers, r
Tony – I’ve always admired your photographic talents. Maybe a good lunch discussion might be tips and methods for shooting musicians to capture their essence in candid moments!
Best regards,
Steve
I am so looking forward to this! I first saw the stick live in the early 80′s when a Mr. Tony Levin was playing it with KC. I wanted one ever since, and finally made it happen 2 years ago.
Question: Should I bring my bass as well as my 10 string stick? Do I need to bring an amp?
Bernie, I’d bring the basd and Stick. We’ll have amps there. t.l.
OK. Picked up a Phil Jones PJB-150 and will bring it with my bass and stick. No amp required. T-39 days and counting!
Hi!
Do we need to bring our own drums and if so are Roland VDrums okay?
Steve
steve, last year we had several kits so you dont ‘need’ to bring your own drums/ last year a few guys did bring their own gear and your welcome too-. V drums would be perfect since you could play anytime.
Can’t wait to see the 3 of you in August along with Year 1 alumni! Looking forward to more Stick time w Tony and I’m already transcribing sections of “e” for Solo Stick… It’s slow going, so Adrian’s input will be helpful! Maybe another improv, Pat and Tony?
See you then! ~M@T8
That’s great, Matt. Be wonderful to have you back. And we’ll try to organize more Stick-related activities. t.l.
If there’s ever anything I can do to help out with that, please let me know.
Happy New Camp Year,
Gearing up for another great camp August 13- 2012 and looking into ways to make it even better!
Our first addition is a good ol’ fashioned ’round the campfire sing along, probably Beatle song-based at the big campfire. marshmallows. dogs on a stick.
This would be in addition to the jam nights in the bar.
We plan once again to do a show at Bearsville theatre on Thursday night. . but this time Adrian and Tony will stay behind at the camp to get a few more hours of one on one time with campers, while the drums and audio get set up
This time we plan to let the brave campers in for full sound check at Bearsville.
We are looking to add something special for spouse and kidletts, . . . but not sure what:
nature hike? cooking class with julie? badminton? crochet? HORSESHOES!
Adrian loves horseshoes and volleyball too! Pat’s big on dominos, and Tony could offer help with any quilting needs. To this end we are trying to arrange discount at a nearby world class spa, so the
bearded campers can offer their wives or significant others an option to hanging in crim mode all day.
We are even considering some sitting in with the c3pp ideas and maybe something else even more frightening!
Adrian would like to extend the section where he taught guitarists both parts of frame
and then play those parts together.
and is thinking of teaching them the multiple “e” figures from e.
Tony’s biggest request was more one on one time with the stick players so he is looking to open more one on one time ( like Thursday afternoon).
I’m planning to bring in Tobias Ralph, the technical wonder drummer from the AB trio, into the camp a day sooner to do more double drumming and spend more time developing drum themes along with camp drummers.
We plan to do another huge full camp jam but will most likely this be one day later (on weds night) allowing us more time to prepare, perhaps some sub groups inside the larger ensemble.
And we have a new webmaster : We are very grateful Gary Branigan has joined to help manage the site, please send lots of those happy smily face things to Gary
as you google him and check out his other sites.
Now the time to send in your ideas and requests to help us make it all this and more.
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all of this sounds really cool… just the camp experience and your total availability was exceptional last year!
I hope to make it this year too. It’d be great to see again some of the great people I met last year (I already see some posting here
I’ll contribute to this page more once I know… which will most likely be very close to the cut off date but such is life!
So how do I make my reservation for this 3 of a Perfect Pair camp?
Rafael, Funny you should ask- we have been updating the site and just added a “Register Now” button right above here. . as well as the top Navigation bar- click either and meet Amy to sign in.
From Tony Levin – Hi everyone – to those who’ve visited here before, welcome back. To new visitors come to take a look, we’ll try to give you a good sense of the camp week coming up in August. The videos from last Summer’s camp show a lot.
As before we’ll tailor what we present to what campers tell us they’d like. But some new elements are already in the works. I know I want to have more one on one time with each of the bassists and Stick players. We’ll organize the nightly jams better. Will have new King Crimson material that we’ll rehearse, and teach some to the Campers. Back by popular demand will be the big jam night with all campers playing at once (!) and another special show at Bearsville Theater with the Trio &, and all access for the Campers.
There will be comments soon from Pat & Ade, and more from me, as we hear from you all. Best, t.l.
Hey Tony,
still don’t know if I can be back… will you consider doing Starless with all the bass players?
I remember you suggesting that possibility last year at the cafè…
Ciao!
Hi Toni, Hi everybody!
Aged 48, not speaking English well, not having been to America, and let say a poor intermediate bassist, yet I consider attending the camp. It might be great joy and opportunity to practise my English, to make new friends, and mainly to have some lessons with you. All that sounds great. I hope that I will succeed in arrangements and in persuading my wife
We will try to speak slowly and clearly if you make it, Vilem. Good luck convincing your wife! t.